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Not sure what to do, any advice gratefully received - meeting ex tomorrow

Hello all

I've posted on here a month or so ago when the situation I was in with a guy went 'bang'. Short version - we'd had 12 dates, all at his request, he weas taking me out to great places, was really attentive, seemed very keen, invited me to go on holiday with him. I didnt call him or text him first until he mentioned I didnt. Over a two week period things went downhill rapidly though. He had two very full on weeks at work and his daughter came over. I didn't hear from him like I used to (i.e. 4 days went past without contact, then he cancelled a date as was working all day, then we saw each other, he was exhausted, planned another date, he cancelled as got stuck working until 1am and then I left him a vmail meaning to sound like 'it would be grate to hear from you' so he'd feel appreciated but he took that as a 'please call me' message...clearly felt pressurised, went awol for 5 days, I had two big nights out, was hungover, ended up texting saying 'i didnt deserve to be treated like this, it's not ok'. We met up, he said he was drowning in work plus he had a lot of pressures on his time (daughter, plus family issues...he's had lots of counselling etc historically after his divorce 8 years ago) plus he did this whole 'i dont know if I want kids again and I dont want to ruin your life' thing. So that was done and dusted. I was pretty gutted and cried although I never got angry etc. I can see I made mistakes, I should have just let him be when he was really stressed.

Yeah, that's the short version. The long version is great for insomniacs.

So, fast forward 2 months and he and I are due to meet up tomorrow. I move to New York from London at the weekend for 2 months so it's a catch up before I go type thing (I suggested before Christmas that it would be cool to do drinks before I go...he agreed to see me as soon as he got back from his holiday, which is tomorrow).

We met each other on the internet. He took his profile down after our 3rd date and I did so after our 6th. I went online last night and his profile is back up (as is mine, mine's been back up for about a month but I havent logged on much). He has a new photo.

I still like him. There's lots of stuff I want to say as when we broke up I was upset and hungover and didnt articulate ANYTHING well. A couple of weeks before Christmas I sent him a message saying I was sorry for being a freak out girl and that I think we'd both freaked out (nb he said himself that he'd freaked out, I was the first person he'd had more than 1 date with in 2 years) and it kind of snowballed, which was a shame. Then I added the bit about a potential drink.

Basically I'd like your views.

Should I even meet up with him tomorrow or is this pointless? Should I give him a get out option (i.e. say I was ill last week - I was - and that if he was worried about catching germs then I'd understand if he didnt want to meet)?

Or should I just think this man just messed me about - pursued me, acted super keen, asked me on holiday, then dropped me a couple of weeks later and used the old 'too busy' excuse? At the time when he said all that I said 'I you just trying to say you dont want something with me, cos I'd rather you just said it straight if that's the case' but he went on about how it wasnt that black and white and I knew from the outset that he had a lot of competing issues...The annoying thing is, those issues are not major problems for me, but he obviously thinks they are.

What to do??!

Thank you in advance.

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I AM IN NY... write or call, okay? There are more of us and we can help!
Auds
xoxox

 
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I'm still in London today! Thanks though! What are you doing up at this time?! xx

 
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Mimi-

If it were me, I would meet up with him for drinks, but with no expectations that our get together would lead us back together.

Just go, say the things you wanted to say and get them out, and see what he has to say.

Perhaps you'll get another chance, perhaps not.

But you definitely won't if you don't go! (Don't give him an out!)

Kat

 
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meet up with him, you clearly like him and want to, be your highest self, be confident and no expectations, have plansl for right after or make your plan as to how youre going to end the time together before you go there, thats what i would do, course then he'll talk you right out of it and get all your guards down adn woo you in, but keep your wits about you adn let him work for it, like i always fall in and fall for it, dont do that, sounds like he wants to see you and is interested, i think its good that you 'reframed' it for him, keep reframing and take it on the upswing, try to laff it off while telling the good truth

 
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Thanks for the great advice. You're definitely right on having something to limit the time - it would be unexpected if I was the one who had to go I guess. Luckily I have plenty of packing to do for my move so can make my excuses about that and leave.

Shizzeele, I wasnt sure what you meant by 'reframing'...sorry i'm being dumb!

I thought about asking him if he was thinking of doing the internet dating thing again, to see what he says. If he says no, well I know that's not true. If he says yes, it is a little awkward as clearly the reasons he gave me (about his issues) were not really the reason behind everything (and I know they usually never are, but this one seemed so extreme!). It's a bit like game playing though. I would like to just be honest and say I miss him and stuff but I know I can't, which is so frustrating.

 
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Hey there! What a hard thing.

If you don't want to see him, and it will be hurtful, then cancel.

But if you want to see him, this is not the time for a closure conversation, so if that is what you want, it will go badly! Please keep it light - make it feel like a first date, just have fun and make it a fond goodbye.

If you make it a closure conversation, he will feel like a dog who pooped and then you scolded him weeks later. He will not understand why and what you are doing.

Good luck!

 
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Hi Mimi, has he even contacted you to confirm you're meeting tomorrow? I know you suggested it b4 Christmas and he agreed that he would as soon as he got back from his holiday, but have you heard from him since this would be tomorrow?

It may make you feel better to see him just to express what you're holding inside and feel at peace (and discuss why the relationship ended). You said that he said the following: "he said he was drowning in work plus he had a lot of pressures on his time (daughter, plus family issues...he's had lots of counselling etc historically after his divorce 8 years ago) plus he did this whole 'i dont know if I want kids again and I dont want to ruin your life' thing."

He may be trying to tell you that you should just move on... counseling, etc after divorce 8 years ago (he may still be emotionally attached to that relationship) or is it counselling for a trigger he has not been able to control?

You say you still like him but what's your sense on his feelings towards you? You said you guys had 12 dates and you're calling him your ex -- were you guys actually exclusive or open for dating others? Let me know what you posted a month ago so I can read it and see things clearer.

Thanks and I hope you decide to do what would make you feel good on the inside. Think about you, not about him.

 
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I hope he remembers and confirms, and that you won't contact him again about it. This is a sticky situation because it was you that suggested meeting for drinks. You should cancel as soon as possible if you decide you don't want to go. Just an 'I'm sorry (his name), I've had a change of plans and have to cancel, maybe some other time, hope all is going well for you' should be enough.
If you do meet him, I don't think you should bring anything else up about what happened, and just be easy-breezy.
He doesn't strike me as someone who is emotionally available to pursue a committed relationship at this time. The words he used with you seem truthful and brought his feelings out into the open.
I would hate for you to stay stuck on him and wondering.
You'll know if he's willing to try if he keeps pursuing you.
Hope you have good and safe trip!

 
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Thanks all. Mother nature appears to have intervened - he was supposed to be landing in the UK this morning I think but flights are delayed because of the snow.

I definitely won't contact him about it, agree it has to be him contacting me. In answer to one of the questions above - i'd mentioned the drink a week before christmas. He texted me a few days later as he wanted to chat, but I didnt actually get the text until christmas day - wasnt going to chat then so left it a couple of days to reply...with something breezy and also said I was around if he wanted to call. He flew on holiday the next day and texted me once he was out there joking back at me about something and saying he would be back 13th jan so we could do drinks that night if any good for me. But heard nothing after that (and it was my 30th and there was no happy birthday text...so I obviously noticed that).

thanks all!

 
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p.s. he appears to have reactivated his internet dating profile whilst on holiday.