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Hi Paige,

I have enjoyed your mailings and I really enjoyed your quiz and I didn't do too bad on it and yet I am not sure that I know men well at all.
Here's my dilema:
Last October I met a guy from another country on the internet and we hit it off, exchanged numbers and we talked on the phone just about every day from the middle of November until the beginning of June and we decided to meet. I flew to see him at the beginning of June and we hit it off even more and had an awesome romantic weekend and the sparks flew and he was talking about if we got married and how he would like me to move to where he is and he kept telling me how beautiful, sexy, awesome and nice I was and that I was the best thing that has ever happened to him and that I was the one. Then after I flew back home he called a couple times and said he missed me and that it has been difficult since I left and it was hard taking me back to the airport, because he wished I could stay. I said I would come back in August but didn't know if I could move because my Ex has joint custody of our daughter and I doubt he would approve of the move and likely would fight me, but I was willing to try long distance for a while and see how it goes and in the future maybe either him or me could get a work visa for a few months just to see how things would go. Then when I talked to him on June 21, two weeks after my trip to see him, he said he doesn't think the long distance will work and he will find it too hard only seeing me every 3 months or so, he wants me all the time, not just casual and that his friend was planning to set him up with someone else and he was considering it. I couldn't believe it! He said this after saying how much he cares for me! I feel that if he cares that much he shouldn't give up so easy and he should at least try and not want to date someone esle right away.
I don't get how guys can do that, why say all that stuff and also why can't he sacrfice a little and at least come to see me where I live and see if he likes it, maybe he could move. He has a teenage son who doesn't live with him and he would still be able to see him and travel back and forth.
Could he just be getting cold feet? He says our only problem is the distance, but I feel he didn't even give it a chance! Is he just another one of those guys who says it all but doesn't do it all! I seem to attract the guys who can talk the talk but fall short to when it comes to walking the walk!
So I told him if that was what he wants, I will respect him and let him go and that I wish him all the best and that he was a great guy and deserves the best. He said okay and I haven't talked to him or communiicated with him since.

Confused???

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Hi,

Just wondering if anyone out there has any words of wisdom for me, I could use it. Still no word from him and I can't believe he could give up just like that. MEN!!!

 
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Apple your Post sounds so Familiar ( this guy wasnt from Germany was he)? There is whole band of useres out there, and most of us encounter one..Hope you find someone Decent who appreciates you real soon..

 
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Pinkki,

Thanks for your reply! No he is not from Germany, he is from the US and I am from Canada. Believe it or not I don't feel like he used me, he was very much a gentleman and we had a great time. He sent me money to help me pay for the flight to see him and he covered the expenses while I was at his place and I was there from Thursday night until Monday morning, and as much as we did want to make love, we didn't because we didn't think we should on our first meeting and we both have religious values we honoured. He did tell me all the things in the above letter and even took me to look at a show home and said if I moved he would sell his two houses and buy a bigger one for us. But when I said I couldn't move, at least not right now, because of custody conplications, he chose to end it. After all he told me and how he had such a strong connection to me and strong feelings I just cannot understand how he can end it just like that and not even want to try long distance and at least come to see me too. I feel when you feel close to someone you wouldn't want it to end and some time with them is better than no time. I just don't get it!!!

 
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Apple - first of all you are amazing....here you are hurting like crazy and confused and yet I see that you are posting wonderful compassionate replies to other women on other topics.

I dont know that I can even help you because I am also in a long distance relationship that is leaving me confused and hurting.

However, I do have an "anecdote" to share (goodness knows how it will help - but it might).

A male friend of mine got into a relationship with a girl from Sweden. He told me that he loved her like crazy and blah blah blah ...BUT then the next thing he is telling me that he has called it off. When I asked why - he said that it was the distance and he needed to be physical and to be able to touch and feel her. I asked him why he didnt just jump on a plane to go see her and he said he was scared of flying (what the?) so I asked why she doesnt come to see him and his reply to that was that she wanted to but she had to wait three months to get leave from her work. What is the problem with that? Well seems that it was just TOO LONG to wait .....double what the? So now this guy has totally cut him self off ...says he is hurting and all sorts of stuff and I am shaking my head and saying to him that surely if he really loved her he would have overcome all these supposed issues? When I really got down to the root of the matter with him it turns out that he is actually scared of changing things in his neat and orderly life - so although he BELIEVED that he very much loved this girl and wanted to be with her, when it came to the crunch he just couldnt move himself from his comfort zone and so he literally "cut off his nose to spite his face" and cut her out of his life. He tells me that when he sees her come on line he just ignores her. I asked him how she feels about this and his answer was that she is a mature balanced woman and she will be fine (sure...I bet she isnt).

So I guess the moral of this story is (a) men are weird but (b) maybe just maybe your guy did indeed get "cold feet" at the thought of changing things in his life????

How to follow up on that? My answer (based on what I have gleaned from this male friend) is that you just have to move on. You are doing the right thing by not communicating with him. It sounds like you are a wonderful and caring person - go find someone who really appreciates you and deserves you and is willing to compromise for things to work out. If he really wants to climb out of his comfort zone he will. But above all - it isnt YOU. It is HIM and you cant do anything to change that.

Sorry if I havent really been any help

 
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CatWoman - WOW! Thank you for your wonderful post, and reading it really helped me and the wonderful things you said about me literally brought a tear to my eye. You sound really great too! I believe that you are right, I think that my friend is going through the same thing with his 'comfort zone', he uses the excuse of his job and his son but his son is already a teenager and will be driving soon and he would be old enough to come see us in Canada. I think my friend is scared of the thought of another country but he knew that when he continued pursuing me and Canada is not that foreign to the US so I feel it is another excuse. I, on the other hand, cannot move because my ex-husband has joint custody and has refused to allow it and I would have to go to court and fight to be able to move her and I would have to prove that it was in her best interest and that I of course could not prove because how could it be in her best interest to move her away from her friends, family, school and everything she has ever known plus we have our health care covered where we are and we have extra medical expenses. I even told him that I would move to the US with him after my daughter graduates, which would be in about 8 years, all we would have to do is date long distance for a year or two, then he come here for about six years and then we could move to the US. I feel that I have tried everything and he didn't really move an inch, he was all wonderful and great when he thought he could convince me to move and when I told him I could not (right now), that was it, OVER! I beleive you are right, I have to move on, and I have been trying to very hard, and every day gets better but not really any easier. Then I think to myself, if a man truly cares for a woman enough to be considering marriage then he shouldn't toss her away at the first sign of a bump in the road and that he needs to bend a little. Since he is not, I guess that tells me alot. Thanks again for your lovely post, you made me feel better, and I will never understand how he can give up just like that, but his loss and since he chose to give up "the one" for his comfort, will he really be all that comfortable??? He may have his comforts of home but he won't have "the one" he wants to share it with (unless he finds another "the one" - which he has been looking for about 10 years until he found me)and to me that is more important than any place or material thing and I thought he felt that way too because on his on-line profile he stated that it didn't matter where you lived as long as you were with that special someone but I guess that only meant if SHE could move! I would if I could but I can't, and he can, in shorter time, but won't! Hmmn! Thought he would have realized by now that I am worth the climb but I guess not with two weeks on no contact but as I said his loss and I will find that someone who will do all he can to be with me and not just give up.
Blessing, Apple

 

Apple, damn them anyway! he got what he was looking for and is so little of a man that he let you fly to his country and not only did you waste your time, but your money. He will get what he deserves one day, I promise you. I hope you at least took in some of the sites and it was somewhat a good experience for you. Forget him, he's not even worth your valuable time. Keep your head up. hugs...

 
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Thanks for your reply and yes I did enjoy my trip, saw some great sites and it was very in-expensive for me because he covered alot of it and paid for everything while I was there, so I had a great time, great trip and a good holiday so it was a good experience. Also, I learned alot and for the time being I gave up on the on-line dating sites because unless I can meet someone close or someone who will move, because I can't, there is no point. Live and learn! Besides, if he saw all the great things in me, someone else will too and will hopefully live closer.
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Well, guess what? No contact with him worked! Just over three weeks and he contacted me saying that he couldn't handle it anymore and missed me and just HAD to call so we have been communicating and will be seeing each other again. However, he has been the one doing the calling and text messaging and I return them when I can (smile). So, I guess we'll see where it goes from here, maybe he is re-considering his comfort zone!!!!!!!

 

and let him pay to see you this time! Demand (without saying it) that he respect you, your money, and your time. Be happy...

 
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It has been a long time since I have been on here but I am somewhat confused again. I went to see my guy again and this time I stayed for 12 days and we had an awesome time and things went really well and he called me his girlfriend and said how beautiful and awesome I am and he hinted about going to Vegas and everything and now that I am home he is not pursuing as much. We are still communicating and getting along and we had a great hour and a half conversation last night but he is back on the we may just have to be friends kick, because of the distance and yet he says we are a great match, communicate well, and he is attracted to me and says that I am beautiful and sexy and that he misses me and would love to see me again but wondering about how we will afford the extra expense of travelling. We have both had bad realationships in the past and him and I get along great and I feel that when we have something good we should not give up and it frustrates me that he said the word friends again. I can't figure him out, when I am with him he is great and he even said he loves me and when I am back home he slowly pushes me away and is unsure of what we can do and yet he does not like the State that he is living in and wants to move but wants to move to another State not to Canada. Is he just trying to blow me off but in a nice way? Because I feel he does genuinely care about me and doesn't want to hurt me but this is driving me nuts. Should I just let him go? Because it would be hard to just be friends now that we have love for each other and our only obstacle seems to be the distance.
Confused Again,
Apple