Sun Aug 30 2009 - 01:11 pm
In the case of MJ "napping" with children and the parents of the children knowing this certain aspect of MJ, would one conclude they were just as guilty for allowing their children to stay with MJ, was there an underlying motive or neglect on the parents part?
In reality it is hoped, no sane woman is going to let her child stay with an unknown man, MJ, although very popular was still unknown and shouldn't have been trusted because of his celebrity status. Not saying he is innocent or guilty, just the facts ma'am, nothing but the facts.
I think it is truly up to the parent to pause for a moment and consider the facts, or findings before drawing conclusions, if she asks the man what he was doing, and his reply is nothing. To ease her nerves, the relationship should be put on hold until she can figure out what is going on and if trust is not re-establish after the separation, she is still no longer comfortable with him around, she would have to end it, simply to once again find peace within herself.
Yes it can be a hard decision to make and one does not want to falsely accuse anyone, but constantly looking over her shoulder, checking on the child is indication she is no longer comfortable with the man in question, making it appear as if she is holding her breath or waiting for the shoe to drop only to say, "I KNEW IT" when proof is found.
Know it now, it may hurt to lose a "good" man but take a stance for the safety of the child and peace of mind.
Or let it go, continue with one's happy life with him and move on, start to trust him once again and be done with it.
Sun Aug 30 2009 - 10:50 pm
Ok , as for the boyfriend, if hes been accused before he has in the past been accused before.
Clearly there is something missing to this. And you did the right thing.
What I tell my mother when she has to be assertive to one of her other four children is
the right answer is not always the easiest one.
If it was there would be no such thing as right and wrong.
Thank you for the compliment.
As for Micheal Jackson.. I personally was terrified of him growing up because he was the first person I even noticed pulled the skin back on his face and cut his nose off.
Out of the mouth of babes??
Now we have glorified it and named it plastic surgeory.
I am 28 years old and I am afraid of the future. What are we focusing on as a positive point of veiw?
Sun Aug 30 2009 - 11:08 pm
PUZZELED you cant say not any mother because mine allowed it for six years .. and then the physical abuse for two more.. till
I stood up. And I fought back.
And she still says she didnt know about it.
Its like saying people who horde things just like to collect things.
Or that just because it looks like fly larva doesnt mean its not rice.
apples to oranges.
The girlfriend spoke the words to her. She is conscious of her own thoughts. She said I suspect him of...
What does that mean to you? Who gives a **** if a man is hung .. you dont really unless its you. You said if it was you , you would have stuck him in prison hung by his .. So its ok to you subconciously as long as its not you?
Thats how this happens. Because we dont want to deal with it.
Sun Aug 30 2009 - 11:30 pm
let's not forget how MJ dangled his baby over the railing...that poor baby must have been terrified! That is more than eccentric. He was a tragically disturbed man (boy) that was so abused by his f--- father that he wanted to remove all signs of being his father's son (plastic surgery...and other deep seeded issues). So sad! And no way would a sane person allow their child to sleep with him, but there were big $$$ involved in many different ways, not to mention the glory. Nice parents!!!! I stood right next to MJ in a store my son worked at in the 90's...his hands were whiter than mine! That poor tragic soul is at rest now.
Mon Aug 31 2009 - 11:48 am
Yup that's all I've been saying. MJ hd way way too much going on in his life that turned him into the trajic soul he was. Therefore, sane judgements on his behaviour just CANNOT be made. A plea of insanity is not really seen as an excuse these days in court, but nonetheless, evidence or not against him in court (plenty of claims but absolutely nothing concrete) these parents all still let their kids "hang" with MJ. Whether he was a paedo or just ill in the head, I will agree he was not a safe person to leave the kids in the care of. I cannot argue with that. But it's all too easy to jump on the lets all hate MJ bandwagon without having all the facts. None of us can say we knew him personally, so it's a sad day to see people hating on others when they don't know the person involved. I agree with everyone who has said the parents are just as much to blame, if not more. MJ was not of sane mind. They were. 'Nuff said, I think.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. If the man in question cannot be trusted with the child in any capacity, or even if there is the slightest bit of concern even if there is no proof yet, get the child the heck out of there! If he's innocent, then the child and man can be brought back together at a later stage in life, if at all possible.
Tue Sep 01 2009 - 12:46 am
makes sense to me.
Thu Sep 03 2009 - 12:49 pm
I m still scared of mj.
I think he was the devil. Why cut the nose off like that?
Cut your nose off despite your face?
Thu Sep 03 2009 - 04:55 pm
First, get him out of the house. Second, get your daughter into counseling. Third, check his criminal history, any sex abuse offenses?
Now if he claims innocense, have him take a lie detector test, there are plenty of private firms who offer this service. Truth is, once a pedofile, always a pedofile, there is no changing them.
Thu Sep 03 2009 - 05:10 pm
Because dumped, MJ, just like you, went through some terribly horrific things as a direct result of his father. And that is putting it mildly. The plastic surgery business was his own, albeit disturbed way, of trying to eradicate every trace of his father and his being related to him. We all handle trauma very differently, and therefore it is unfair to call a person a devil because they don't/didn't cope with trauma the way you did. I still mess up relationships with men every time I get a good one, or one at all in fact so badly I can almost time exactly when I'll mess up and what I'll do, because I've been put through terrible traumas by exes. Would I be evil if I dealt with that by self harming to try and "scrape" off the feel of their hands hitting me?
We need more updates and facts in this thread. I think all of us just want to know the kid is safe now. :)
Thu Sep 24 2009 - 10:03 pm
ok I give you that, maybe he was victimized by the surgeon and there is a psychological disorder called.. simatophorm i think so i guess that would be it. When you see in your head your body differently than it is. Mostly associated with belimia and anerexia but more and more common is an addiction to plastic surgeory.
Duely noted.
Id like to know about the little girl myself.
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